Northern Sun Conference Games Start Today – Poll Results


The Northern Sun Conference’s 2010 regular season baseball games kick off today as St. Cloud State and Minnesota Crookston take to the Metrodome at 2pm for the first of 208 scheduled NSIC matchups.  There are 4 series scheduled for this weekend.  This will also kick off the new doubleheader format of 1 – 9 inning game followed by a 7 inning game each day.  I had previewed this new format and some of the impact last fall – Change To Doubleheader Format

  • St Cloud State @ Minnesota Crookston – St. Cloud’s Friday/Saturday games against Crookston were smartly planned in the Metrodome where they were guaranteed a playable field.  The Huskies are the clear favorite to win all 4 games but only won 3 of 4 last year.  In the end, that 1 loss to a team who only won 3 NSIC games, cost them a chance to go to the NSIC post season tournament.  Series preview is here – SCSU To Battle Golden Eagles
  • Concordia @ Augustana – The Concordia @ Augustana series has been moved from Sioux Falls to St. Paul and will be played at Concordia’s Barnes Field.  Last year the Vikings kicked off their successful season by winning 3 of 4 against the Golden Bears in the opening weekend.  This year they should be the slight favorites but these games could go either way – Opening Weekend Moved to Barnes Field
  • Wayne State @ Bemidji State – Wayne State will travel to Bemidji State to try and play 4 games in northern Minnesota on March 20th.  When those games were scheduled I would have bet a lot of money that they couldn’t play in Bemidji that early in the season.  This should be an interesting series as Wayne State has struggled in non conference play and the Beavers have a few nice wins and are ranked #9 in the Central Region by NCBWA.  If Wayne doesn’t take at least 3 of 4 their chances of winning a 7th straight NSIC title will take a hit.
  • Minnesota State @ Northern State – Finally, no word on where the Minnesota State vs. Northern State games will be played.  Minnesota State can’t afford to have any of these games cancelled as they should easily sweep the overmatched Wolves.

Preseason Poll Results

This past week I asked Northern Sun Baseball’s readers which team would win the NSIC Regular Season Title.  It was a tight race and in the end 2 teams (Winona State and Wayne State) tied for the lead.  This year certainly looks like it could be closer than years past as I think any of 4 teams could win it –


Thanks to all who voted!

51 Responses to “Northern Sun Conference Games Start Today – Poll Results”

  1. 1 Dave March 19, 2010 at 8:51 am

    The Minnesota State/Northern State games have moved both location and days. The series will be played in Mankato on Sunday & Monday. Sunday start time is 1:30, Monday is noon.

    Story here:

  2. 2 John Plasha Sr. March 19, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Dates have moved for WSC vs. Bemidji also. Now set for Sunday-Monday. Location the same. If they get them in then that’s great. If not then I’ll ask a pointed question at that time. Good luck to all this weekend.

  3. 3 Wow March 19, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    St.Cloud beats Crookston in the first game, a 9 inning game 4-0.
    Birr gives up 7 hits.

  4. 4 Wow March 19, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    St. Cloud wins the second game 19-0.

  5. 5 imafan March 19, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    How come Winona, SMSU and UI are not scheduled to play this weekend???

    • 6 fishingmn March 19, 2010 at 9:24 pm

      They were smart?

      Duluth & Mary are non-conference games (against each other) so there are 5 teams not starting conference games until next week.

  6. 7 IMAFAN March 19, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Why would that be when most teams won’t even come close to getting all the games they can and don’t play 3 teams in the league each?

    • 8 fishingmn March 20, 2010 at 6:46 am

      Actually, each team is scheduled to play 4 games against 8 other Conference teams for a total of 32 Conference games. Therefore, they don’t play 4 other teams each.

      They can start those games next weekend and still get all 32 of them played but they don’t leave a lot of slack in the schedule for weather that way.

  7. 9 imafan March 20, 2010 at 9:04 am

    I believe one year Winona only played like 28 games total due to weather?!
    I hear ya about bemidji. Last year Winona had to travel up there knowing there was a huge snow coming in for Sunday. They played Saturday and went home Sunday in a blizzard to 45 and no snow. While it would suck to have minimal home games year in and year out it is what it is. They are in nothern MN where it snows often in the spring. They still are.

    • 10 John Plasha Sr. March 20, 2010 at 11:28 am


      I hope they really do get the games in tomorrow and Monday and I also believe it’s in every teams best interest to get as many home games played as possible. With that said, I think I’ll wait to see how things play out (or not) before I finish this post.

  8. 11 Anonymous March 20, 2010 at 11:13 am

    St Cloud mangaged to squeak by Crookston in a 4 game series out scoring Crookston 59-1. A stat builder for sure.

  9. 12 fishingmn March 20, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Augustana about to sweep Concordia in their DH today – leads 7-1 in the 6th inning of the 2nd game after winning game 1 by a score of 8-6.

  10. 13 Anonymous March 20, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Sure would be nice for Augustana to get to play Crookston for a conference series once. What was sweet about last year is they didn’t play them and still put St. Cloud on the shelf for the NSIC tournament. It can’t get any better than that. Augie did finish off Concordia 7-1. Tomorrow is a different day though.

  11. 14 numberwonfan March 20, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    I agree Anomymous, the teams you play and the times of the year you play them have a huge bearing on who makes the tourney. Some teams not having to play the top teams two years in a row doesn’t really determine a true champion. This wouldn’t be an issue is more than 6 teams made the tourney.

    Sure would love to be Southwest and Winona again this year with there conference opponents. Winona might be the favorite either way, but the 16 games they don’t play the have to be the front runner.

    And you are right Auggie has one of the most difficult schudules, as do all four of the old NCC teams. Almost thinks someone had some type of motives in putting the schedule together!

  12. 16 numberwonfan March 20, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    I shouldn’t say a “true champion” because clearly Wayne and Mankato were the top two teams last year. I meant more of the top to bottom finishers. Playing, or not playing 16 NSIC opponents doesn’t really determine a top to bottom finish.

    Mankato, St. Cloud, Duluth and Auggie are the old NCC teams that all play each other the past two years, which isn’t a bad thing. Just kind of weird how they all play each other and most of these have a tougher other NSIC opponent schedule and most have opened the year with the lower NSIC teams when it’s much more difficult to even get games in with the weather. Just putting it all together is sure seems like a few othe NSIC teams sure have a much easier road again to finish in the top 6.

    The bottom line though is you have to win games to make it past the conference tourney anyhow.

    Good luck to all teams this spring. Lets hope the weather works with us.

    • 17 Anonymous March 20, 2010 at 7:54 pm

      It is nice to make the tourney, and a hard schedule makes it harder to do. If Augustana would play Crookston 4 times instead of Winona that would make it a bit easier.
      IF you don’t get there it don’t matter.
      Look at Kansas today. Once in the tournament anything can happen. I hope next year they can even it out some.

  13. 18 Wow March 20, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    St. Cloud State
    Minnesota State
    North Dakota State

    older ones
    South Dakota State
    University of North Dakota

    These are the ones I know.

  14. 19 Wow March 20, 2010 at 7:51 pm


    University of North Dakota was one of the last.

    North Dakota State University was one of the older

  15. 20 baseball March 20, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Southwest does play Winona, Mankato, Augustana, Upper Iowa. Those four teams all made the NSIC tournament last year.

    • 21 Anonymous March 20, 2010 at 8:00 pm

      They also don’t play St. Cloud, Wayne St. Concordia.
      Augustana plays St. Cloud, Wayne St., Concordia, Winona, Upper Iowa, Southwest State,

  16. 22 FYI March 20, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Every 2 years the schedule changes so the teams will not play 4 different teams for 2 years again. its just how it has to be when you live up north…just not enough time in the year to play every team.

  17. 23 imafan March 21, 2010 at 10:16 am

    Maybe this entered into it maybe not?
    Didn’t the NCC teams have more money and number of scholorships right up to the new league formation. Wonder if that fact played a roll in the first scheduling? Maybe it should have? The number of scholorships and monies available should inhibit or inhance a teams ability to field a more competitive or less competitive team. Perhaps this inequity should have and will play a roll for at least 3-4 years. I would rather be the coach who had more of both than less of both money and scholorships.
    Beyond that do the teams with D-1 Hockey get more money in general than the other teams for athletics and baseball from the hockey teams? Is that an unfair/unequal advantage? Money should equal success to a point Yanks vs Twinkies!??!

  18. 24 John Plasha Sr. March 21, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    WSC takes game 1 in Bemidji 15 – 2

  19. 25 Anonymous March 21, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    The number of scholarships dropped from 11 in the NCC to 9 in the NSIC.

  20. 26 Anonymous March 21, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    The number of scholarships dropped from 11 in the NCC to 9 in the NSIC when the joined the NSIC the first year.

    • 27 John Plasha Sr. March 21, 2010 at 4:37 pm

      That’s an NCAA rule. 11.7 for D-1 and 9 for D-2 and 0 for D-3

      • 28 fishingmn March 21, 2010 at 7:41 pm

        9 is the maximium scholarships to be divided up among players at the D2 level. That said, I don’t think any NSIC teams get anywhere close to 9. I’m guessing the average is more like 3-4 scholarships to be divided among 25-30 players.

  21. 29 imafan March 21, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    The NCC did have I believe 11 scholorships until last year when the new league was formed. I have heard that form several sources. I also thought the total per scholorship was more in the NCC?

  22. 30 John Plasha Sr. March 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    WSC loses 2ed game 7 – 6. Up 5 – 1 in the 6th they bring in their DH to pitch. The rest is history. Go figure.

  23. 31 Anonymous March 22, 2010 at 5:50 am

    I was thinking about the teams that have home field, then have to travel to the away teams place to play the games.
    I don’t know, but I would think to make this fair for those teams, the away team then should pay for the travel. This is if the games are swapped to the away teams field. If to a neutral site then each pays the travel.
    Maybe this is already done.


    Mankato at Bemiji. Played at Mankato. Mankato pays travel expense.

    • 32 Anonymous March 22, 2010 at 7:03 am

      If it was set up like you proprose then the home team (In this example Bemidji) would have less of reason to get their home field in playing shape. Why penilize Mankato if their field is ready to go. Besides, in most cases, the location of the series are useually just flip- floped with the 2ed series scheduled later in the season.

  24. 34 Anonymous March 22, 2010 at 7:31 am

    How many times has Wayne had to travel extra. I bet the northern teams might think it is broke, because it is breaking them. Remember this is a conference and all are in it together.

    • 35 John Plasha Sr. March 22, 2010 at 9:59 am

      The answer to your question is “Many”. Wayne still hasn’t had a home game yet. They have played in 5 different states so far. And I still see nothing wrong with flip-flopping the series in search of better weather. They did it several times last year and it worked well.

      • 36 Anonymous March 22, 2010 at 11:06 am

        Thats fine with me if the team is payed for traveling. You first stated it didn’t matter how much a team would have to pay for traveling. Your point is now mute being the home team who has to travel gets paid by the away team. Argument over.
        We are also talking about conference games as they are the ones that they need to get in. As far as I know Wayne has not had any home games this year.
        I will restate my question that was meant to mean conference games.
        How many times has Wayne had to travel as a home team to play a confernece game that was scheduled to be played at Wayne.

  25. 37 Baseball March 22, 2010 at 8:21 am

    If the series is changed. the team that was to travel, still pays the other team to come. So for instance, Mankato paid Northern State’s travel expenses this weekend.

    FYI.. The NCC didn’t have 11 baseball rides if that is what is being said. The D2 max is 9 I believe.

    • 38 John Plasha Sr. March 22, 2010 at 10:08 am

      The D-2 max is 9 as I stated yesterday and posted above but I don’t think the NCC was bound by that as they wern’t part of the NCAA yet were they?

  26. 39 Anonymous March 22, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Yes they were and they also were considered one of the top NCAA D2 conferences in the country. I am not sure but I think the NCC teams that moved to the NSIC had to drop 2 scholarships. Now that could have been 9 to 7. That would be a conference agreement when they move to the NSIC.

  27. 40 Baseball March 22, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    no school had nine rides. The most, from I hear right now, is about 4-5 rides. Maybe Wayne, Upper Iowa. No one has close to 7 or the full 9.

  28. 41 IMAFAN March 22, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Do they all have the same or not? Do some schools choose to use more and others less? So if the max is nine is there some agreement to stay with 4 or 5 in the NSIC Or ?????

  29. 42 IMAFAN March 22, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Did you notice N.M Highlands vs. C state Pueblo #1 vs. #1 in the Rockys were canceled. No make up it looks? Whats up with that? That would be an easy call for C Stste seeing as they did get beat 18-1 in the first and only gm of 4 played!?!? Which ended in 6 innings which I thought was against the NCAA rules – SMSU Vs. Duluth 2/5/10. Where is the consistancey here? Is it made up as you go along? Kind of like the Federal Govt. these days? Rules were made to be broken!

  30. 43 cu17dad March 22, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    I believe if the coaches have an agrfeement prior to the game a “mercy ending” may be allowed. I think I read it in a tournament setting. So probably notr always holds true in a regualr 4 game set.

    I am sure Crookston and Northern would have preferred it last weekend.

    Augie came out swinging in all four games. Marks and Dubanoski had a tremendous series. Marks killed several CU rallie with outstanding glove work. He stopped 3 or 4 rocket ground balls at third in the second game and turned into either routine outs or double plays.

  31. 44 Baseball2 March 22, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Schools have a set amount of scholarships for both mens and womens sports. (football is a totally different animal. They have their own scholarship standards. And from what I hear the NSIC has the least amount of scholarships for football in the country making UMD’s national championship that much better) The schools big wigs decide how to divide out the scholarships among the individual sports. If a school carries a lot of sports or does not have the budget to have a lot of scholarships(I.e. Crookston) they will have less scholarship $$’s. So to throw out random numbers here lets say a school has 20 scholarships to hand out for all mens sports. Lets say they have 5 mens sports. Basketball will probably get the most scholarships because…well…its basketball. So they will get the max which is 9 I think. That leaves 11 scholarships for the remaining 4 sports…You get the idea. Baseball is not exactly high on a schools list to get scholarships so my guess is your average NSIC school will have 3-4 scholarships.

  32. 45 cu17dad March 22, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    I would guess the schools parcel out scholarships monies. No doubt “non-revenue” sports receive less $$ than money makers.

  33. 46 Anonymous March 22, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    UMD won the championship in the first year of the NSIC. Thus still having in place the full amount of scholarships from the NCC. The NCC allowed 36 scholarships for football and that was dropped to 24 when they joined the NSIC. So I don’t see how that makes a difference in the UMD Championship. It will take a few years to even out.

    • 47 IMAFAN March 22, 2010 at 6:58 pm

      Did you notice N.M Highlands vs. C state Pueblo #1 vs. #1 in the Rockys were canceled. No make up it looks? Whats up with that? That would be an easy call for C Stste seeing as they did get beat 18-1 in the first and only gm of 4 played!?!? Which ended in 6 innings which I thought was against the NCAA rules – SMSU Vs. Duluth 2/5/10. Where is the consistancey here? Is it made up as you go along? Kind of like the Federal Govt. these days? Rules were made to be broken?!
      When it comes time for say MN State and St. Cloud if they are vying for NSIC top spot are they going to cancel the games? This may allow another mountain team in lieu of a NSIC team for regionals?
      Where are the regionals going to be played this year? Does that go to the number 1 qualifier?

  34. 48 fishingmn March 22, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Not that I trust the UMD coach but he claimed he had 3 scholarships to divide among the players. I’m pretty sure SCSU and MSU have a little more money (think I heard 4.5 as one of their numbers) but it’s still a long way from the max of 9.

  35. 49 John Plasha Sr. March 23, 2010 at 5:45 am

    Getting back to action on the diamond WSC crosses the plate 51 times while taking 3 outa 4 from Bemidji.

  36. 50 Cardinal 17 March 23, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Speaking form experience Duluth doesn’t have any more then 3 scholarships to share between 35 kids.

  37. 51 Stanger March 23, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Southwest is only given 1.5 scholarships among their student athletes.

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