Concordia’s Ugly Loss – Regional Implications


I talked yesterday about the importance of Concordia’s game in Colorado –

The game to watch is today’s 2pm Central tilt between Concordia and Colorado State – Pueblo (15-5).  The game features the #2 and #3 teams in the NCBWA Central Region Poll so it has potential playoff implications. 

Well, unfortunately for Concordia (and the rest of the Northern Sun who was watching) the game may have proved how far ahead the premier teams in the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference are over the top teams in the NSIC.

Here’s what you saw when you looked at the boxscore –



The final score said 15-3 but this was worse than that. 

Yes, Concordia scored 3 runs but they were all unearned and came courtesy of no hits.  In fact, Pueblo’s starting pitcher carried a no-hitter into the 8th inning before Concordia’s Jake Schmidt got a single to break it up.

Speaking of Jake Schmidt, the Golden Bears started their Preseason Northern Sun Pitcher of the Year in this game.  Schmidt had been dominant in his earlier outings and was one of the league leaders with a 3-0 record.  Not anymore –


That’s one ugly pitching line.

Not only did he get the loss, he got thoroughly manhandled giving up twice as many hits as innings pitched and 8! earned runs.  His season ERA jumped from 1.08 to 3.19.  CSU-Pueblo Stuns Concordia

So, while the Golden Bears did end up taking 2 of 3 against RMAC opponents, it looks like Mesa State and Colorado State – Pueblo are the early favorites to advance out of the NCAA D2 Central Regional.

18 Responses to “Concordia’s Ugly Loss – Regional Implications”

  1. 1 CU Pride March 13, 2009 at 7:55 am

    Concordia put the ball in play all game but just unable to find the holes, hitting it right at CSU-Pubelo all game long which is completly different story for CSU-Pubelo hitters. Did Jake have a bad outing? He possible did by not hitting spots which left the ball hang or be right down the middle give CSU-Pueblo better chances to hit the gaps. I would have loved to see CU win but also if this is Schmidt’s one bad game of the year I’m okay with it as its better now than later on in the season.

    I honestly think this game does not reflect that talent levels between the top teams in each league. I seriously think if they played a 4 game series it would be a split between the two teams. Also not making an excuse with this next statement its simlpy just giving interesting information and observation, CSU-Pueblo starting roster is SR/upperclass dominated with 6 sr’s and 4 jr’s starting. Would love to see the teams play again.

  2. 2 WSCDad March 13, 2009 at 9:51 am

    I agree. Wayne State has taken losses to Atlantic Region #6 Concord (Stay tuned, they are in a rematch with Concord right now!)and a pair of losses to Midwest Region #5 Southern Indiana including one a**whippin’!! It happens. One early season baseball game is not an indication of doom and gloom for the Northern Sun. Talk to me in a month and lets see where we stand.

    Fact is, the Cats have only played 11 games and I still expect that they will compete with any one in D2 before this season is over.

  3. 3 fishingmn March 13, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Thanks for the details CUPride – there’s only so much I can glean from the boxscores so an in person report is great.

    In regards to you saying Pueblo is dominated by Seniors – well so is Concordia right?

    5 of their top 8 hitters (in regards to game starts or at bats) are seniors and 10 of their 14 starts have come from senior pitchers.

    WSCDad – I agree that Wayne has played a tougher schedule than most. That said, for a team that has been carrying the NSIC banner for so many years, some might have had higher expectations than they’ve delivered on so far. For the pride of the Northern Sun we need them beating those teams! 🙂

    Thanks for the comments!

  4. 4 WSCDad March 13, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    WSC 9 Concord 8

    Come from behind, 4 or 5 in the bottom of the last. Got a strong start from Moreland and the hitters are coming around. Cats are headed home and finished up with 3 game winning streak.

    Much happier 24 hour bus ride than it could have been!!

  5. 5 WSCDad March 13, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    WSC scored 6 in the 9th.

  6. 6 BEANCOUNTER March 13, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    I found this post a bit interesting. It just reiterates the ol’ saying “anything can happen in the game of baseball.” I personally don’t think one game this early in the season is a make or break point for Concordia or any other NSIC team for that matter. It definitely doesn’t define Jake Schmidt’s season as preseason pitcher of the year. Anyone can have an off night which is exactly why baseball teams will play a series or playoff to see who is the best.

    Just for discussion I wanted to point out one factor that may or may not have had an effect on the outcome is the adjustment to playing in higher elevations. (Obviously hard to prove but makes for a good discussion) For people that have been to Colorado you may relate that it can take up to a week for the body to fully acclimate to moving around in higher elevations when your body is not used to it. It takes 6-8 weeks just for the body red blood cell count to fully adjust to the altitude. (Red blood cells carry the oxygen throughout your body) For this reason many top athletes will train in higher altitudes building their red blood cell count up and then compete at a lower altitude yeilding better results. Obviously Concordia was clobbered and this elevation idea seemingly may be far fetched but it does make for good speculation when traveling to play in places like Colorado.

  7. 7 Wow March 13, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Concordia’s schedule has not been that tuff so far. Colorado has been the best team they have faces. Maybe the true color’s are yet to be brought out.
    Opponent Location Time/Result
    Feb. 4 Northern State (2) Metrodome W, 4-0 ; W, 19-0
    Feb. 6 U-Mary (2) Metrodome W, 4-0 ; 8-3 (6) – !
    Feb. 10 Minnesota Duluth (2) Metrodome W, 8-4 ; L, 1-9
    Feb. 25 St. John’s (MN) (2) Metrodome W, 8-7 ; W, 15-7
    Mar. 3 Grand View (IA) University (2) Metrodome W, 7-1 ; L, 3-5
    Mar. 5 Mayville State (ND) Metrodome W, 8-2 ; W, 6-4 (8)
    Mar. 10 at Regis University (1, 9 inn) Denver, CO cancelled
    Mar. 11 at Colorado School of Mines (1, 9 inn) Golden, CO W, 10-5
    Mar. 11 vs. Regis University (1, 9 inn) Golden, CO W, 12-9 (10)
    Mar. 12 at Colorado State Univ.-Pueblo (1, 9 inn) Pueblo, CO L, 3-15

  8. 8 CU Pride March 13, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    WOW—Take a look at the schedule a lil closer. Yes Northern State isnt the best team and is at the bottom half of the conference as is Mary but they are both D2 and conference foes which help with region rankings. Duluth is always a tough team and I think will be middle of pack this year if not get few more wins over teams in top half of the conference. Grandview has always been a premier NAIA team throughout the years making NAIA World Seires several times. Mayville State and St. Johns respectable for NAIA. The 3 Colorado teams help with region ranking and giving its the first time any have probably been to or play at the altitude is a good factor, balls carry there a lil longer and having to adjust to climate playing 3 games in 3 days will be a benefit to them the rest of the season and especially if regions happen to get held out there compared to other teams from NSIC that may not have played out there before. Another thing if you got such a problem with CU’s schedule then why dont you have a problem with say St Cloud’s schedule? Just Curious.

  9. 9 Wow March 13, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    CU would be the favorite in all the games they played except Colorado. Anyway I thats the way I would place my money. St.Cloud’s schedule isn’t much better.
    If you want to talk schedule, look at SMSU. They don’t play Concordia, St.Cloud, Wayne St. or Duluth in conference play. They get Augustana, Crookston, Northern and Mary for 4 games each. I will pick SMSU to win the conference. This is just my opinion. I personally would like to see two division’s with a 8 team conference tournament, 4 from each division.
    Should be a fun season and wish everyone good luck.

  10. 10 Wow March 14, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    Just for kicks I looked up Augustana’s schedule. They play Concordia 4, St.Cloud 4, Wayne St. 4, Winona 4,SMSU 4. Just a tad tougher then SMSU. Personally I would want to play the toughest schedule I could. To be the best you have to beat the best as the saying goes.

  11. 11 SCSU March 14, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    No matter how good a lower-division team is, I think it will always hurt losing to them for the simple fact you are a division up and supposed to beat them….

    With that being said, SCSU hasn’t had the toughest of schedules so far, but Wheaton was ranked 23rd in the D III poll and Malone is a solid NAIA team that won 40+ games a year ago, and seems to have established a pretty good baseball tradition. The Huskies also could have easily swept their series at Mo. Southern earlier as they blew two late leads in the two losses down there.

  12. 12 SCSU March 14, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    also another note on Wheaton they have only missed the NCAA Tourney once since 2000 and turned out major leaguer Chris Denorfia a few years ago…

    I think that’s one of the beauties of college baseball. You’re going to find elite players at EVERY level

  13. 13 fishingmn March 14, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Great discussion on this topic. I’m working on putting together an analysis of each team’s conference schedule in time for the regular season next weekend. So far, it doesn’t look like a huge difference for most teams.

  14. 14 Wow March 14, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    The need is for a split conference with the top two teams playing for the championship. Odds are that this would insure that one of the best teams would at least get a chance to win it. It is possible the way it is that a top team may win it because of scheduling.
    Let the sun shine, please.

  15. 16 CU#17Dad March 15, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    CU had played a long doubleheader the day before Pueblo. The temperatuer was 36 degrees when they finished the Regis game. My brother was at these games and said it looked like the Golden Bears were tired after the doubleheader. Turn around the next day and play the third game in less than 24 hours was a tough task. Pueblo is a very good team and performed well. Hopefully the teams will meet again down the road. I am looking forward to the conference games and see what shakes out.

  16. 17 SCSU March 17, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    That type of schedule is what the whole conference schedule is set up like, play a DH at noon/1 then do it again the next day.

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